I need to crate my dog I need advise?

I have a Shitzu that is 9 years old that is marking in new areas. The vet says the breed does that. There is no way of retraining him not to. So put him in a crate. I have a peek also and they love to lay by eachother. When I put Bandit in the crate they both bark. I can not sleep with knowing how upset they both are. So I put them both in it and that was worse they barked louder. Please understand my dogs sneeze when it is time to go potty. They are trained not to bark. So, it is messing up that training to. (Even my cat sneezes at times to go out to potty while leashed)


Bandit pottied on himself after being in there for 2 hours today. Again the vet said it was his way of saying he was ticked off and goes with the breed. The dog knows I would have to bathe him and he would be out... smart not dumb...well whatever he is a brat.


Ideas on how to crate him with no barking and without him peeing in there? Should I put the crate out of site or in my bedroom? Is there a help site? THXI need to crate my dog I need advise?
First and foremost, take the dog to the vet and insist on a thorough check, including blood work. If your vet won't, then find another vet that will.





As for crates, the dogs are barking because they want your attention - do not give them any, just ignore the barking when they are in there. To help train them to like their crate:





Any dog can learn to love his/her crate. A dog is a den animal, dens being fairly compact and secure – a safe place for the dog to rest.





Therefore, never use the crate for any type of punishment – This is critical!





When you first introduce the dog to the crate, leave the door open, and occasionally throw a favorite treat or toy inside the crate. Allow the dog to walk into the crate, get the goodie, and then leave if they want. This will instill a sense of comfort for the dog – it will be just like going to another part of the house.





When you want to put the dog away for the night or if you are going out, then again, throw a treat or toy into the crate, and gently close the door behind them – do not “slam” the door shut, as this will spook the dog.





As you are putting them away, give them a command such as “in your house” or “kennel up”. The dog will learn that this means to go into the crate.





During the times when the dog is not locked in the crate, leave the door open. The dog will come and go frequently, as the crate is their “safety zone”, and not a place to fear. You will see that the dog will soon go into their crate when they get tired or want to get away from people, noise, kids, etc.





One other very key element – if the dog is in their crate, leave them alone! Many of the family dog bites that occur are when the dog is in their crate and someone tries to either play with them or pull them out. Make sure everyone who is in the house, including any guests, know that if the dog is in their crate they shI need to crate my dog I need advise?
Why don't you just put both dogs in an easy-to-clean room (like a laundry or bathroom with washable lino/tile flooring) with the kennel, if possible (leave kennel door open too).





Maybe you should also change vets,.. seems his answer is ';goes with the breed'; to everything!
put him in another room - place a cloth so he cant see out - but can STILL get fresh air in to %26amp; out of the crate .. - or corner of the kitchen %26amp; put papers in there %26amp; go back to the puppy phase %26amp; place both your animals there ? Has he ever been checked for bladder issues ? I know some dogs are rblious big time but it is another possibility
Older dogs sometimes start to lose control over their bladder. Nine isn't too old for a shih tzu, but he is most likely considered to be starting his senior years. No particular breed of dog just goes and marks all over the place. Unaltered dogs will mark inside the house, so if he has not been neutered, look into it. And it is possible to train him not to do that. The vet is not a trainer.


At night, when they bark when in the crate, ignore them. Don't give in, because they will remember that and know that eventually you will give in and come give them attention. Put a shirt of yours that you wore in with them so they smell you at night. Since it got worse putting both in there together, maybe just try crating the shih tzu. It will take some adjusting.





When first introducing a dog to a crate, they may be scared of it at first. When I got a crate for my dog, he didn't want to go in it, so I put treats in there and let him enter on his own. When he was comfortable doing that on his own, we were able to shut the door and he never had a problem with it.


And never use the crate as punishment.





Dogs don't like to sleep where they go to the bathroom, so when crating, you don't want to give the dog too much space.


Enough room to turn around and lay down is all they need. Some crates come with a movable divider, or you can make one. Put it up so that you block off any part of the back of the crate that isn't needed.
If he hasn't been fixed, do that.


Also, you can't just put them in there for hours at a time right away. Make sure it's big enough for him to stand and turn around in the crate. It obviously needs to be bigger if 2 are in there.


He needs to get used to it, so put him in there and walk away. He'll start crying and barking. Once he stops for about a min, go back, give him a treat, and praise like hell. Let him out of the crate for awhile. Do this a couple of times a day. After a few days, leave him in there longer. And continure the process. Do not go to him when he's crying! He'll realize this will get attention from you and he'll do it all the time. Make sure he has chew toys in there.


Good luck
Well, all pets can be trained at any age. My dogs 2 go into a crate I put toys in it towel food and water, when I first started I also gave treats for entering the cage and good behavior...





As far as the bladder issue if it still is a factor either find another vet because he keeps telling you ';its just the breed'; he is lying!!
Crates always need to be introduced gradually, no matter what age the dog. One thing that bothers me about vets is that they know their medicine but so many don't know their training! Crate training isn't the right approach to take to prevent your dog from marking. Marking isn't done as a means to relieve the bladder- it's done to mark territory. Crate training reinforces house training but your dog already knows that it's wrong to go inside, he just thinks it's more important to own the space. I usually don't recommend spraying dogs, but in this situation it may be successful. Any time you witness your dog lifting his leg, spray him with water as you say ';no!'; firmly. Establish yourself as the alpha of the house so he won't constantly feel the need to claim his space. You'll need to include your other dog in this process as well. Reinforce whichever dog already acts as the alpha consistently. This means petting, feeding and allowing the dominant one out the door first- after you, of course.





Edit: That sounds irresponsible of the vet but he did what is the norm- try training first and if that doesn't work, then look for a medical cause. Call your vet again and insist on a test at least for a urinary tract infection.